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I0OJJ  > FBB      22.12.20 21:00l 77 Lines 3580 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Re: Change HR for VE2PKT
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Sent: 201222/1843z @:I0OJJ.ITA.EU [Rome] $:2ZRX_I0OJJ

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>From: Gustavo Ponza <i0ojj@i0ojj.ampr.org>
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On 12/22/20 3:29 PM, al0y@al0y.#nnj.nj.usa.noam wrote:
> R:201222/1430Z @:VE2PKT.#TRV.QC.CAN.NOAM #:36875 $:1261_AL0Y
> R:201222/1430Z 3428@KD8FMR.#SRQ.FL.USA.NOAM LinBPQ6.0.20
> R:201222/1429Z @:AL0Y.#NNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM #:1261 [WAYNE-NJ-USA] $:1261_AL0Y
> 
> From: AL0Y@AL0Y.#NNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM
> To  : FBB@WW
> 
> I0OJJ;
> I am not sure where you got that there are only 400 BBS systems in the world. There are at least 580 BPQ nodes on the BPQ map w
> ebsite.
> And those are the ones that choose to be advertised, so the number may be more.
> Then there are those who use FBB, JNOS, and any BBS system.
> 
> Then on top of that, there are the local users of each of those systems. You know, normal users that use their TNC on RF to
> download their messages and the bulletins...
> 
> So, the number of users is WAY more than the mentioned 400.
> But this is not really the main concern. even 400 is still a lot.
> But this is not really the main concern. even 400 is still a lot.
> If you want to identify your node as just I0OJJ, you probably can do that ... but you will need to tell those 400 nodes you men
> tioned how and where to route messages for you
> I don't think this is very wise, I know I have to send all ITA.EU and ITA.EURO to IZ5FSK, and he takes care of that.
> If you drop the ITA.EU from your node's HR, your messages will have no route... Again, unless you tell that to the 400 people y
> ou mentioned.
> If you drop the ITA.EU from your node's HR, your messages will have no route... Again, unless you tell that to the 400 people y
> ou mentioned.
> Then, if each one does as you say, BBS routing will be a chaos.
> And it will be the worst experience ever.
> 
> THERE IS A REASON (A LOGICAL ONE) WHY HROUTES EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. THIS IS NO EMAILS.
> THERE IS A REASON (A LOGICAL ONE) WHY HROUTES EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. THIS IS NO EMAILS.
> Now, regarding the 2-letters or the 4-letters thingy...
> 
> f you use, 2 Letters, what will South Africa become? SA? I though this is South America.
> What about CEAM for Central America? in two letters, this becomes NA... so messages addressed to the Caribbeans now flood USA,
> Canada, and Mexico?
> What about the Antarctica? Middle East? or MARS (as in Military Auxiliary Amateur Radio)?
> 
> Again, Standards were created for a reason. You just need to trust those who did it.
> And think scaling up.
> 
> Oh, and if we only have 400 BBS now? we hope to have more later, not less.
> We would like to grow this hobby.
> What if a year from now there are 2000? (I believe we are already there), will you still ask the 2000 (specially those who just
>   setup a BBS) to change routing for your BBS, just because?
> 73 de AL0Y

Simple reply:

In this moment the *networked* PBBS are 394.

For the other stupidities, after 20 years, I'm tired to explain
always the same things to a people who don't understand and
don't want to understand :(


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73 and ciao, gustavo i0ojj/ir0aab/ir0eq
non multa, sed multum



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