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CX2SA  > SYSOP    19.11.17 06:11l 231 Lines 10726 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
BID : 26962-CX2SA
Read: GUEST
Subj: Waiting the apologies of HF1L
Path: IW8PGT<IR2UBX<DB0RES<DB0OVN<DB0GOS<ON0AR<F1OYP<F4DUR<CX2SA
Sent: 171119/0409Z @:CX2SA.SAL.URY.SOAM #:26962 [Salto] FBB7.00e $:26962-CX2SA
From: CX2SA@CX2SA.SAL.URY.SOAM
To  : SYSOP@WW

Hello All!
In 16 years CX2SA never modified any route.
I know very well the packet rules.
Janusz has accused me without any technical basis, and I did not like
that.
He could have consulted me privately and not accuse me in public.
Maybe, I would have helped him find the source of the problem.
I followed the R:LINES of the bulletins and saw that an italian station
changes to @WW.
I asked HP2BWJ my friend Jose Luis to send the weather bulletins via CEAM.
It was understood that they were more appropiate for the Caribbean region.
For this simple reason, it's not me who change the routes. HI HI HI
Even, MY bulletins that are ORIGINALLY in MY BBS are via ARL or via AMSAT
have all been changed to WW by IK1NHL.
Please read to the end.
Below are listings and examples with very strong and clear evidences that
all bulls are swapped by IK1NHL.

I connect to IK1NHL-8 and list message from HP2BWJ:

*** connected to IK1NHL-8
Stai per essere connesso alla rete , attendi...
[FBB-7.00i-ABFHMRX$]
ŚMSLcnxF v2.1Ě
IK1NHL Mailbox, QTH JN33UU.
(1) IK1NHL BBS>
L< HP2BWJ

Msg#   TSLD  Dim  To    @ BBS   From   Date/Time Title       (LC-choice: *)
145376 BF    1459 CLIMA @WW     HP2BWJ 1118/1725 Perspectivas De Las Condicione
145339 BF    3886 CLIMA @WW     HP2BWJ 1117/2205 Marine Weather Discussion
144971 BF    3947 AMSAT @WW     HP2BWJ 1111/1305 Working Your First Satellite
144947 BF     368 TODOS @WW     HP2BWJ 1111/0404 Balum 9:1 especificaciones
144925 BF    2676 TODOS @WW     HP2BWJ 1110/2255 Amsat News
144921 BF    1039 TODOS @WW     HP2BWJ 1110/1944 Tech
144915 BF    1084 TODOS @WW     HP2BWJ 1110/1425 Perspectivas De Las Condicione
144897 BF    6376 WX    @WW     HP2BWJ 1110/0444 Eastern North Pacific Tropical
144893 BF     457 TODOS @WW     HP2BWJ 1110/0324 test

(1) IK1NHL BBS>
R 145376
From        : HP2BWJ
To          : CLIMA@WW
Type/status : BF
Date/time   : 18-Nov 17:25
BID (MID)   : 2773-HP2BWJ
Message #   : 145376
Title       : Perspectivas De Las Condiciones Del Tiempo En El Tropico

(This message has been read 1   times so far in this BBS.)

Path: !CX2SA!HP2BWJ!
From: HP2BWJ@HP2BWJ.COL.PAN.CEAM
To  : CLIMA@CEAM

000
ACCA62 TJSJ 181139
TWOSPN

Perspectiva Especial sobre las Condiciones del Tiempo Tropical
Emitido por el Centro Nacional de Huracanes Miami, FL
Traducido por el Servicio Nacional de Meteorologia San Juan PR
700 AM EST sabado 18 de noviembre de 2017

Para el Atlantico Norte...Mar Caribe y Golfo de Mexico:

Un area alargada de baja presion continua produciendo aguaceros y
tronadas desorganizados sobre el centro del Mar Caribe, asi como
porciones de Republica Dominicana y el norte de Columbia. No se
espera que este sistema se desarrolle a ciclon tropical debido a los
vientos fuertes en los niveles altos mientras se mueve generalmente
hacia el norte durante los proximos dias. Sin embargo, lluvias
localmente fuertes son posibles sobre porciones de la costa norte de
Colombia, el este de Republica Dominicana, y Puerto Rico durante el
fin de semana. Para mas informacion sobre la amenaza de las lluvias
fuertes, favor referirse a los productos emitidos por su oficina
local del Servicio Meteorologico.
* Probabilidad de formacion hasta 48 horas...baja...cerca de 0 por
  ciento.
* Probabilidad de formacion hasta 5 dias...baja...cerca de 0 por
  ciento.

$$

Pronosticador Stewart
Traduccion Cotto

--- End of messsage #145376 to CLIMA from HP2BWJ ---

(1) IK1NHL BBS>

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Now same bulletins at CX2SA BBS:

LC: *
N§ Msj TSLD Bytes Para  @BBS    De     Fech/Hora TĄtulo
====== ==== ===== ============= ====== ====/==== ======
92465  B$     536 METEO @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1118/2009 Perspectivas De Las Condicione
92440  B$    1347 CLIMA @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1118/1320 Perspectivas De Las Condicione
92367  BF    3692 CLIMA @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1117/1750 Marine Weather Discussion
92366  BF    1086 METEO @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1117/1741 Perspectivas De Las Condicione
92351  BF     405 METEO @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1117/1225 Eastern North Pacific Tropical
92344  BF    1255 METEO @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1117/0822 Perspectivas De Las Condicione
91798  BF    3856 AMSAT @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1111/0900 Working Your First Satellite
91714  BF    2335 TODOS @WW     HP2BWJ 1110/1849 Amsat News
91712  BF     284 TODOS @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1110/1830 Balum 9:1 especificaciones
91703  BF     940 TODOS @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1110/1458 Tech
91694  BF     981 TODOS @CEAM   HP2BWJ 1110/1013 Perspectivas De Las Condicione

1:CX2SA BBS>

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Now @ARL and @AMSAT bulletins changed by IK1NHL to WW:

link setup (1)...
*** connected to IK1NHL-8
Stai per essere connesso alla rete , attendi...
[FBB-7.00i-ABFHMRX$]
ŚMSLcnxF v2.1Ě
IK1NHL Mailbox, QTH JN33UU.
(1) IK1NHL BBS>
L< CX2SA

Msg#   TSLD  Dim  To    @ BBS   From   Date/Time Title       (LC-choice: *)
145382 BF   24719 KEPS  @WW     CX2SA  1118/2024 2Line Orbital Elements 17322.A
145371 BF    3556 SAT   @WW     CX2SA  1118/1605 RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Launched, De
145348 BF    4228 KEP   @WW     CX2SA  1118/0105 ARLK088 Keplerian data
145338 BF    6513 PROP  @WW     CX2SA  1117/2124 ARLP046 Propagation de K7RA
145313 BF    1950 SPACE @WW     CX2SA  1117/0305 ARLS014 RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Laun
145312 BF   24710 KEPS  @WW     CX2SA  1117/0256 2Line Orbital Elements 17320.A
145310 BF    4824 DX    @WW     CX2SA  1117/0124 ARLD046 DX news
145263 BF    4538 SPACE @WW     CX2SA  1115/2046 ARLS013 RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Laun
145212 BF    4229 KEP   @WW     CX2SA  1115/0044 ARLK087 Keplerian data
145207 BF   24667 KEPS  @WW     CX2SA  1114/2300 2Line Orbital Elements 17318.A
145205 BF    1931 QST   @WW     CX2SA  1114/2204 ARLB021 Section Managers to Be
145204 BF   24622 KEPS  @WW     CX2SA  1114/2124 2Line Orbital Elements 17318.A
145169 BF   24346 KEPS  @WW     CX2SA  1114/0645 2Line Orbital Elements 17317.A
145010 BF   19921 SAT   @WW     CX2SA  1112/0145 ANS-316 AMSAT News Service Wee
144948 BF    4230 KEP   @WW     CX2SA  1111/0404 ARLK086 Keplerian data
144946 BF   24442 KEPS  @WW     CX2SA  1111/0359 2Line Orbital Elements 17314.A
144920 BF    7147 PROP  @WW     CX2SA  1110/1924 ARLP045 Propagation de K7RA
144885 BF    4874 DX    @WW     CX2SA  1110/0124 ARLD045 DX news
144833 BF    1048 SPCL  @WW     CX2SA  1108/2344 ARLX011 ARI President Mario Am
144828 BF    4038 SPACE @WW     CX2SA  1108/2204 ARLS012 RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Laun
144792 BF    4226 KEP   @WW     CX2SA  1108/0113 ARLK085 Keplerian data
144762 BF    5647 KEP   @WW     CX2SA  1107/1755 ARLK083 Keplerian data
144761 BF    6066 DX    @WW     CX2SA  1107/1744 ARLD044 DX news
144685 BF    3455 QST   @WW     CX2SA  1106/2224 ARLB020 W1AW 2017/2018 Winter
144548 BF   16083 SAT   @WW     CX2SA  1105/0143 ANS-309.01 AMSAT News Service
144450 BF    4577 PROP  @WW     CX2SA  1103/2123 ARLP044 Propagation de K7RA
144448 BF    4029 KEP   @WW     CX2SA  1103/2043 ARLK084 Keplerian data
144385 BF     801 KEPS  @WW     CX2SA  1103/0428 APRS Satellites QIKCOM-1 Deplo
144383 BF   24193 KEPS  @WW     CX2SA  1103/0347 2Line Orbital Elements 17306.A
144379 BF    4836 DX    @WW     CX2SA  1103/0043 ARLD044 DX news
144095 BF    4227 KEP   @WW     CX2SA  1031/2323 ARLK083 Keplerian data

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ORIGINAL BULLS SENT to the ARL route by CX2SA:

l@ ARL

LC: *
N§ Msj TSLD Bytes Para  @BBS    De     Fech/Hora TĄtulo
====== ==== ===== ============= ====== ====/==== ======
92384  B$L   4014 KEP   @ARL    CX2SA  1117/2104 ARLK088 Keplerian data
92364  B$L   6247 PROP  @ARL    CX2SA  1117/1717 ARLP046 Propagation de K7RA
92310  B$L   1785 SPACE @ARL    CX2SA  1116/2254 ARLS014 RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Laun
92307  B$L   4590 DX    @ARL    CX2SA  1116/2122 ARLD046 DX news
92229  BFL   4054 SPACE @ARL    CX2SA  1115/1638 ARLS013 RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Laun
92156  BFL   4015 KEP   @ARL    CX2SA  1114/2033 ARLK087 Keplerian data
92148  BFL   1767 QST   @ARL    CX2SA  1114/1754 ARLB021 Section Managers to Be
91718  BFL   4016 KEP   @ARL    CX2SA  1110/2007 ARLK086 Keplerian data
91702  BFL   6843 PROP  @ARL    CX2SA  1110/1452 ARLP045 Propagation de K7RA
91627  BFL   4643 DX    @ARL    CX2SA  1109/2113 ARLD045 DX news
91504  BFL    898 SPCL  @ARL    CX2SA  1108/1927 ARLX011 ARI President Mario Am
91498  BFL   3832 SPACE @ARL    CX2SA  1108/1749 ARLS012 RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Laun
91426  BFL   4012 KEP   @ARL    CX2SA  1107/2110 ARLK085 Keplerian data
91390  BF    5990 DX    @ARL    CX2SA  1107/1342 ARLD044 DX news
91261  BFL   3238 QST   @ARL    CX2SA  1106/1819 ARLB020 W1AW 2017/2018 Winter
90924  BFL   4339 PROP  @ARL    CX2SA  1103/1720 ARLP044 Propagation de K7RA
90922  BFL   3819 KEP   @ARL    CX2SA  1103/1631 ARLK084 Keplerian data
90829  BFL   4603 DX    @ARL    CX2SA  1102/2040 ARLD044 DX news

1:CX2SA BBS>

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ORIGINAL BULLS SENT to the AMSAT route by CX2SA:

L@ AMSAT

LC: *
N§ Msj TSLD Bytes Para  @BBS    De     Fech/Hora TĄtulo
====== ==== ===== ============= ====== ====/==== ======
92449  B$L  23877 KEPS  @AMSAT  CX2SA  1118/1622 2Line Orbital Elements 17322.A
92435  B$L   3356 SAT   @AMSAT  CX2SA  1118/1204 RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Launched, De
92311  BFL  23733 KEPS  @AMSAT  CX2SA  1116/2255 2Line Orbital Elements 17320.A
92153  BFL  23734 KEPS  @AMSAT  CX2SA  1114/1851 2Line Orbital Elements 17318.A
92147  BFL  23733 KEPS  @AMSAT  CX2SA  1114/1719 2Line Orbital Elements 17318.A
92111  BFL  23733 KEPS  @AMSAT  CX2SA  1114/0226 2Line Orbital Elements 17317.A
91854  BFL  19367 SAT   @AMSAT  CX2SA  1111/2142 ANS-316 AMSAT News Service Wee
91758  BFL  23584 KEPS  @AMSAT  CX2SA  1110/2356 2Line Orbital Elements 17314.A
91067  BFL  15445 SAT   @AMSAT  CX2SA  1104/2138 ANS-309.01 AMSAT News Service
90845  BFL    655 KEPS  @AMSAT  CX2SA  1103/0028 APRS Satellites QIKCOM-1 Deplo
90841  BFL  23583 KEPS  @AMSAT  CX2SA  1102/2345 2Line Orbital Elements 17306.A

1:CX2SA BBS>

For all these reasons I defend my position with solid arguments.
Also you can see the originals bulls at: http://cx2sa.net/b/fbbtoweb.htm
try by route, try by sender, by topic etc. and there you will also get the
answer.
I hope the italians solve this problem.
For the next one please investigate before accusing someone.
Many thanks to All.
Best 73, Jose

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