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G8MNY  > TECH     08.10.14 11:19l 46 Lines 1881 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
BID : 12060_GB7CIP
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Subj: DC/RF Sensing PA Switching
Path: IW8PGT<IZ3LSV<IR1UAW<IW2OHX<IQ2LB<IK1NHL<IQ5KG<I0OJJ<GB7CIP
Sent: 141008/0832Z @:GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO #:12060 [Caterham Surrey GBR]
From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO
To  : TECH@WW

By G8MNY                                      (Graphics updated Dec 03)
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For PA with RF/DC sense switching (as some rigs put out DC on Tx), that used a
diode to detect any +ve signals (RF/DC) on the transceiver to operate the PA
PTT system....

The time constants are ok for SSB & FM, but 22uF can be omitted for FM only.
TR1 & 2 BC107 etc, TR3 a TIP type PNP, D1 RF diode 1N4148 etc. D2 1N4001.

RigÄÂÄÄÄÄÂÄÄ´ÃÄÄÄÄ> RF to Drive Relay
    ³   _³_   1n
    ³   \_/                                    ______+12-24V
    ³    ³D1                                 ³/e
  100k   ³      ÚÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÂÄÄÄÄ´ TR3
    ³   22k     ³                       ³    ³\ PNP
    ³    ³      ³      Ext oÄÄ¿        330     ³ +Tx
    ³    ³    ³/       PTT    ³    LED  ³      ÃÄÄÄÄ> Drive, O/P,
    ³    ÃÄÄÄÄ´ TR1           ÃÄÄÄÄ´<ÃÄÄÙ      ³      Bias, &
    ³    ³    ³\e           ³/                 ³      Fan Relays
    ³   ===     ÃÄÄ47kÄÂÄÄÄÄ´ TR2              ³
    ³    ³10n   ³+     ³    ³\e                ³
    ³    ³     ===     ÃÄÄÄÄÄÄ)ÄÄÄÄ150kÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ´
    ³    ³      ³22u   ³      ³    +ve        _³_
    ³    ³      ³     10k     ³  feedback     /_\
    ³    ³      ³      ³      ³            D2  ³
   ÄÁÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÁÄÄÄÄ

HOW IT WORKS
D1 detects RF & passes any DC to turn on TR1. TR1 turning on charges up the
22uF & makes TR3 initially conduct to give fast Tx attack. When 22uF is over
2V TR2 is turned on & passes higher base current into TR3 via a Tx LED ensuring
it is well turned on. The 150k +ve feedback ensure snap action.

External PTT earth can be put in/out on TR2 collector.

I have found it was heat sensitive, due to the sensitivity of the 1st NPN.


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73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP


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