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YT7MPB > TECH     05.01.23 17:06l 173 Lines 7565 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
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Subj: Re: Lafayete 57 Range Multimeter
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On Sun, 25 Dec 22 08:41:00 Z
G8MNY wrote:

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> 
> From: G8MNY@GB7CIP.#32.GBR.EURO
> To  : TECH@WW
> 
> By G8MNY                                 (Corrections Jan 16)
> (8 Bit ASCII graphics use code page 437 or 850, Terminal Font)
> 
>           Model 99-5076
> 
> ___________________________________
> __~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ DC Volts  0.25 2.5 10 50 250
> 1000  @ 25k/V __                               __       0.125 1.25 5
> 25 125 500  @ 50k/V ___________________________________
> ____~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~____ DC Amps   50uA 5mA 50mA 500mA
> 10A  @ Normal ____                           ____           25uA
> 2,5mA 25mA 240mA 5A @ 2x ____ .                         ____
> ____  '.                       ____ AC Volts  3  10  50  250
> 1000     @ 2.5k/V ____    '.       .             ____           1.5
> 5  25  125  500      @ 5k/V ____      '.   :'\':           ____
> ____        '. '_._'           ____           10x dB scales & DC
> isolated AC. ___________________________________
> _____________         _____________ Ohms _FSD 13_  65_  650_  6k5_
> 65k_ _  o-  +o _   (|)   _ o    o  _
>   _         _         _         _   Accurancy DC 2%, AC 3%
>   _ [_ ]rev ___________  _[ _]  _
>   _______________________________
> 
> MULTI METER PRINCIPLES
> 
> DC VOLTS                         1000  100   10   1 Volts
> To get a meter of just one         _10M___1M__100k____11k1____>+
> sensitivity to do many             o    o    o    o
> ranges voltage multiplier             /_\
> resistors are used. Here              +_
> the voltage drop across              /~~~\
> the meter is ignored, but           _Meter_
> it will affect the lowest        90uA\___/
> 1V scale.                              _______________________>-
> Series resistors are used
> to protect the switch more            Sensitivity is 11k1/V
> from high voltages.
> 
> DC CURRENT                                100uA 1mA 10mA 100mA
> For current ranges shunts             +_______________________>+
> are put across the meter.            /~~~\    \_/
> Here the meter resistance           _Meter_ o    o    o    o
> is 100_ so it has 10mV drop     100uA\___/       _    _    _
> @ 100uA. The 1mA shunt here      10mV  _        11_  1_   0.1_
> is corrected for the 100_              _______________________>-
> meter load.
> 
> AC VOLTS
> For AC a rectifier diode is
> used, & normally this alters          1000  100   10 Volts
> the sensitivity, so a different         _4M5__450k_____45k____>~
> multiplier arm the DC is used.          o    o    o
> In this circuit only half the                  /_\
> current goes through the meter        +_____<____
> & the 1.1 AC sine wave form          /~~~\  D1 ___D2
> factor means that 2.2x meter        _Meter_    /_\
> current must flow. Only a       100uA\___/      _100uA
> 100mV is lost in the germanium         _______________________>~
> diode D1, so the low voltage
> range can take this into account
> on the scale. D2 can be any type         Sensitivity is 4k5/V.
> & protects the low voltage D1.
> 
> OHMS
> Here a voltage source is put
> in series with the meter & a
> known resistance that set the
> half scale resistance & includes                      (actually -ve!)
> the meter load resistance.             ___Cal Zero R__________>+
> The higher the battery                +_             \_/
> voltage the higher resistance        /~~~\      o   o  o   o
> that can be measured, but           _Meter_  _10_100_1k_10k_
> becomes a danger for            100uA\___/   _
> sensitive electronics.                 _     _     _+
> The Cal zero R sets the meter          _______________________>-
> sensitive to give full scale                       _  (actually +ve!)
> ZERO reading on shorting the
> probes depending the battery state.
> 
> Note that the battery internal resistance is added to the unknown
> resistance, & this affects the low range scale calibration! Also the
> probe polarity is reversed to that indicated & it is different than
> for digital meters!
> 
> ACTUAL MULTIMETER CIRCUIT
> __===========================================================================
> _                              I
> __========================= =============== ================
> ===========   =_ \/
> __20k__80k__     _     _
> _ /\                                       /_\      _     _     _Com
> + 10A O/P_ ______________________                    _       _
> _     _  o o o  _ _    ____  ___       _
> ___________________)_____________)_____)___  _u1_  _  _ _   /15uA\ _
> ICal    _ _   13             _   Low    _ 13k  __)__)_____)___  _ _
> __ Meter__ ________)_)__  _            46k _4k7__<__  _   _ _  _
> _     _ _ _ \____/ _12.5k    _ _ _  _             _  oNor_  3k3 _   _
> _  _0.025_     _ _ _        _ _       o o _  _             __>    _
> _  _   _ _        _     _ _ ____>_____ _oNor _> X <_  _
> __ o_  _  5kHi_   _ _        _     _ _ ___<______   <____ o o
> _             __ _4k7__>_____   _ _      0.475   _ _ ___VCal___
> _oVA/2_Rev Nor _             __  Low           _ _        _     _ _
> _____________6k25_       _)_____________))_________________
> _________)_    _ _                          __
> __                _ ___________    _
> ___56k25_197k5_1M_5M_18M75___47_650_6k54_____1M87_M5_M1_17k5_
> _4.53_45.3_24k9_ o     o     o  o  o     o_o  o   o    o_o_o    o  o
> o   o_ o    o    o    o _   I         _ _                _
> =========================_=============_
> _================__================ I                            _
> ===============__________________ +____ 0.25   2.5   10 50 250   1k
> R/5 R 10 100 1k 1k  250 50 10  3 500  50    5  50u
> \________DC_VOLTS_________/ \_____OHMS____/ \___AC_VOLTS___/
> \____DC_mA____/ & dB Scales
> 
> The configuration switching between modes & all the ranges is all
> done on just 1 large rotary switch with 3 bridging contacts (I) 5
> wipers of 2 circuits.
> 
> Only 4 probe sockets are used, 2 extra for the high current (10A) &
> the DC isolated AC measurement.
> 
> Extra switches provide a meter reverse feature & a double sensitivity
> that doubles the number of meter ranges. (has no meaning on ohms!)
> 
> This meter's movement is a extremely sensitive @ 15uA for FSD, but
> not very accurate, so it is calibrated with an ICal & VCal presets at
> manufacture.
> 
> The AC ranges are calibrated with select on test resistors 2x "4k7
> Low" & the "5k Hi" that accurately allows for the diode forward
> resistance loss & leakage.
> 
> Most of the resistors are special values made for the meter, & of
> course they are very accurate & stable 0.5% types.
> 
> 
> See my tech buls on "Meter Movement Types", "Maplin Mains Meter
> 2000MU-UK", "Edgcume Peebles Megger & Low R", "Edgcume Peebles Earth
> Loop Z", "Car Dwell Angle & RPM Meter", & "Kelvin Varley Voltage
> Divider".
> 
> 
> Why don't U send an interesting bul?
> 
> 73 De John, G8MNY @ GB7CIP
> 
> 

Related to the diagrams above, it makes me wonder how I could see
the proper graphics ("> (8 Bit ASCII graphics use code page 437 or 850,
Terminal Font") if I read the original bull by using Claws Mail in
Debian Linux.

Btw, thank you John, G8MNY, for your tech bulls!

-- 
73 de Misko YT7MPB@YU7BPQ.#NSD.SRB.EU



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