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AL0Y > ROUTE 03.12.20 20:47l 63 Lines 3564 Bytes #999 (0) @ WW
BID : 10291_AL0Y
Read: GUEST
Subj: Re: Change HR
Path: IW8PGT<IZ3LSV<IR1UAW<IK1NHL<CX2SA<N3HYM<AL0Y
Sent: 201203/1842Z 10291@AL0Y.#NNJ.NJ.USA.NOAM BPQ6.0.20
I totally agree with Sergej...
SYSOPs have been destroying (intentionally or not) the nature of forwarding for the BBSs by defining their own H-Routes sometimes, by totally dropping them the rest of times, or simply treating every message as sent to WW and flood all their forward partners with all the messages.
How many times did you see a message originated by a station in Euro, addressed to a European H-Route, and somehow it ends in USA or SOAM?
I know I have seen lots of those.
How many times did you see messages stuck with no forwarding route in your system, because someone addressed it to VKnet instead of AUNZ, or Latnet instead of SOAM, or ALLOH instead of OH.USA.NOAM?
Again, I have seen lots of those. Yes, I know we can define aliases, but seriously? how about proper addressing to start with?
It is the responsibility of SYSOPs to talk to their forwarding partners and see what where each HR is best sent to. draw a map of where to forward a message for someone else to forward it and have an idea of how many hops the message will take to reach each destination. I have done exactly that with my partners (see: http://aly-al0y.ddns.net:5012 for details of how I forward messages in my BBS).
I am sorry to say that, but this is becoming irritating and overload for the SYSOPs to keep track of all that non-sense. And not everyone use AXIP for forwarding. some of us still use RF and seeing these messages fly over the airwaves and occupying the channels when probably more relevant messages (think EmComms) can be sent, is just not what this is all about.
73 de AL0Y.
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> Hello all
>
> I0OJJ:
> >
> > As of today, in Italy there are ONLY 33 PBBS (390 in the world) and
> > since i0ojj is unique in Italy and into the world, no error may be
> > done on forwarding mail msgs to my callsign.
> > As per above Region field doesn't matter due the fact that we are
> > 4 PBBSin my Region ... so no error may arise using only my callsign
> > without any other suffux :)
>
> Can't agree.
> Gus, look for a case when there are SP messages for any@I0OJJ
> in some other BBS that don't have _direct_ fwd with BBS I0OJJ.
>
> Its simply will go to nothing! Because you don't have (don't defined) your full
> H-route address, at least to route that message to the some of BBS'es in your
> region (meaning you should potentially have fwd with one of them),
> that should indicate by region code in your H-address!
>
> So, not defining region code - destroy all nature of H-routing.
> In that case only way - to setup direct fwd with each-every bbs in same Country,
> with no exceptions, but its even much more non-sense and stupidity!
>
> Same non-sense, when in last years some of sysops like to setup AXUDP NET/ROM link with almost
> everyone each other! Then what sense in inter-nodes routing at all?!?!
> Or when instead of proper axudp nodes maintenance and management they run new one more BBS/CHAT/DXC/etc
> services, when we already have less number of users than number of that services already
> running in the network, hi! :-)
>
>
> 73, Sergej.
>
>
>
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